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  • PortysPride
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Posted at 2014-11-03 20:02:24 — Link

Im not sure if its an actual bug but this is just sensless...Ive used about 12 50% DCA injections and got out only 1 deviant baby...its supposed to be 50% so I should have arround 6 deviant babies...there has to be something wrong because its not behaving like a 50% more like the usual 10%...I mean Im more succesfull when I dont use the injections than when I do...and its rather unfair since I spent so much time in exploring looking for crystals...I dont know but it just seems there has to be somekindoff bug with the calculations...

Hey guys! So I decided to use the signature to help me complete my deviant collection!!!

So these are the deviants Im missing and looking for:

Unicorns - Rocs - Dragons - Pumas

Color Devs:

Black Kite, Black, Cold Gray, Black Bicolor, Brown Bicolor, Gray,  Piebald White, White, Spotted White, Sky-blue, Light-green, Spotted Green, Black, Spotted Black, Silver, Spotted Red, Piebald Silver, Cloudy Leopard, Gray, Silver, Gray Siamese, Pure Black, Blue, Cream, Siamese, Apricot, Pastel Siamese, Lilac, Snow Leopard, Dilute White, White Siamese

Pattern Devs:

Black Bicolor, Montagus Harrier, Gray, White Gryphalcon, White, Dilute White, Striped Blue, Blue, Sky-blue, Spotted Blue, Striped Green, Black, Silver, Spotted Black,  Red, Piebald Red, Striped Silver, Silver, Piebald Silver, Spotted SilverGray Tiger, Cloudy Leopard, Silver, Blue, Red Leopard, Siamese, Yellow Tiger, Leopard, Apricot, Brown Tiger, Brown Cloudy Leopard, Brown, White Tiger, White, Dilute White, White Siamese


  • Angel
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Posted at 2014-11-03 21:15:08 — Link

Could you please list your babies that were born with DCA?


  • PortysPride
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Posted at 2014-11-03 22:20:03 — Link

mhm I can try.... deffinetaly 3 were used on my female dragon http://beastkeeper.com/pet/68832 with this male http://beastkeeper.com/pet/300898 resulting in these 3 babies: http://beastkeeper.com/pet/372067  http://beastkeeper.com/pet/371394   and  http://beastkeeper.com/pet/372583

 

then this is the deviant that was produced succesfuly: http://beastkeeper.com/pet/371403

then these 2 mares got the doubleshots (first bug) and then 1 more shot each http://beastkeeper.com/pet/366657  and   http://beastkeeper.com/pet/365043 both with this male http://beastkeeper.com/pet/368222 to produce these 4 foals: http://beastkeeper.com/pet/372183  http://beastkeeper.com/pet/372182  http://beastkeeper.com/pet/371402http://beastkeeper.com/pet/371402  and the deviant above...

 

one of the mares was breed once more with a shot with the same stally and gave this foal http://beastkeeper.com/pet/372834

then I know I used at least 2 shots probably 3 on my mare http://beastkeeper.com/pet/359495 with stally http://beastkeeper.com/pet/256567 but Im not sure which foals...I think it was these 3 http://beastkeeper.com/pet/371926  http://beastkeeper.com/pet/372452   and   http://beastkeeper.com/pet/372807 though Im not sure if all 3 foals...2 deffinetaly but not sure about the third one...also I cannot recall which horse got the last shot...

Hey guys! So I decided to use the signature to help me complete my deviant collection!!!

So these are the deviants Im missing and looking for:

Unicorns - Rocs - Dragons - Pumas

Color Devs:

Black Kite, Black, Cold Gray, Black Bicolor, Brown Bicolor, Gray,  Piebald White, White, Spotted White, Sky-blue, Light-green, Spotted Green, Black, Spotted Black, Silver, Spotted Red, Piebald Silver, Cloudy Leopard, Gray, Silver, Gray Siamese, Pure Black, Blue, Cream, Siamese, Apricot, Pastel Siamese, Lilac, Snow Leopard, Dilute White, White Siamese

Pattern Devs:

Black Bicolor, Montagus Harrier, Gray, White Gryphalcon, White, Dilute White, Striped Blue, Blue, Sky-blue, Spotted Blue, Striped Green, Black, Silver, Spotted Black,  Red, Piebald Red, Striped Silver, Silver, Piebald Silver, Spotted SilverGray Tiger, Cloudy Leopard, Silver, Blue, Red Leopard, Siamese, Yellow Tiger, Leopard, Apricot, Brown Tiger, Brown Cloudy Leopard, Brown, White Tiger, White, Dilute White, White Siamese


  • Angel
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Posted at 2014-11-04 10:50:10 — Link

Thank you for the links. There's one pet that couldn't become deviant because of the wrong genetics, but all other pets qualify for rolling a chance.

We've run a bunch of tests and performed complex debugging this night, and we didn't find anything wrong. Since DCA is a chance item, it can sometimes give odd results with the small quantities, like 10 pets in a row are deviant or other 10 pets in a row are not. Testing on the large samples (1000 and 10000 pets) provided the expected result for a 50% probability. I'm sorry, but this looks like just a bad luck.


  • PortysPride
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Posted at 2014-11-04 11:26:08 — Link

which pet couldnt become a deviant? I made sure that all my pairs give a good chance at deviant having at least one parent homozygous and the other preferably homozygous too but at least carriers of that gene...

 

well given the price and the chance, mathematicaly it should be working on small quantities as well...it goes fine up to 10 but once surpasing that number its turning from bad luck to bad mathematics...after what number then would you consider a mistake?because its physicaly impossible to get 1000 uses of that shot as now you only buy 1 shot with the 8 crystals not 5 anymore and those 8 crystals are already tough to get (I find about 6-7 a day from about 40-50 explorations and the event is to end in a couple of days (I think we have like 2 weeks all together?)...I mean if it keeps coming out useless its losing its point specialy if I can get for the price of one much more of other items that actualy work like the transmitter or pink fish eggs...

Hey guys! So I decided to use the signature to help me complete my deviant collection!!!

So these are the deviants Im missing and looking for:

Unicorns - Rocs - Dragons - Pumas

Color Devs:

Black Kite, Black, Cold Gray, Black Bicolor, Brown Bicolor, Gray,  Piebald White, White, Spotted White, Sky-blue, Light-green, Spotted Green, Black, Spotted Black, Silver, Spotted Red, Piebald Silver, Cloudy Leopard, Gray, Silver, Gray Siamese, Pure Black, Blue, Cream, Siamese, Apricot, Pastel Siamese, Lilac, Snow Leopard, Dilute White, White Siamese

Pattern Devs:

Black Bicolor, Montagus Harrier, Gray, White Gryphalcon, White, Dilute White, Striped Blue, Blue, Sky-blue, Spotted Blue, Striped Green, Black, Silver, Spotted Black,  Red, Piebald Red, Striped Silver, Silver, Piebald Silver, Spotted SilverGray Tiger, Cloudy Leopard, Silver, Blue, Red Leopard, Siamese, Yellow Tiger, Leopard, Apricot, Brown Tiger, Brown Cloudy Leopard, Brown, White Tiger, White, Dilute White, White Siamese


  • Angel
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Posted at 2014-11-04 21:56:46 — Link

Please reserach the genetics of your pets to see which one isn't homozygous in either color or pattern.

Sorry, we have thoroughly checked checked all the scripts and didn't find any errors. As I already mentioned, it may be hard to see the statistics for a single player but it's easy for an emulation with 10k of pets. We already spent several hours for a complete test and debugging to make sure that we didn't miss any cases or hidden conditions, but it turned out that everything works as expected. Please remember that all your previous rolls doesn't affect the current roll. No matter how many times you get heads or tails, it's still 1/2 chance that you have tails for the current flip. It's possible to have tails 100 times in a row, just the probability of this event is significantly lower than to have tails one time. But it's still possible.

DCA is one of the most valuable items among the Warlock items. Deviant pets aren't supposed to be easy to get, this is why this item stays a chance item even for a certain price. Warlocks offer a variety of limited items that have different designation and scope. If you think that other items are more profitable, you can focus on collecting crystals to trade them instead of DCA. It's up to you to decide which ones are more valuable for your playing style and game goals.


  • PortysPride
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Posted at 2014-11-05 19:02:19 — Link

well its physicaly impossible to throw 100x the same in heads or tails but I get your point....though still I think that once the number surpases 10 and is reaching 15 its not right...damn I realy hope todays foal comes out deviant from the injection...

Hey guys! So I decided to use the signature to help me complete my deviant collection!!!

So these are the deviants Im missing and looking for:

Unicorns - Rocs - Dragons - Pumas

Color Devs:

Black Kite, Black, Cold Gray, Black Bicolor, Brown Bicolor, Gray,  Piebald White, White, Spotted White, Sky-blue, Light-green, Spotted Green, Black, Spotted Black, Silver, Spotted Red, Piebald Silver, Cloudy Leopard, Gray, Silver, Gray Siamese, Pure Black, Blue, Cream, Siamese, Apricot, Pastel Siamese, Lilac, Snow Leopard, Dilute White, White Siamese

Pattern Devs:

Black Bicolor, Montagus Harrier, Gray, White Gryphalcon, White, Dilute White, Striped Blue, Blue, Sky-blue, Spotted Blue, Striped Green, Black, Silver, Spotted Black,  Red, Piebald Red, Striped Silver, Silver, Piebald Silver, Spotted SilverGray Tiger, Cloudy Leopard, Silver, Blue, Red Leopard, Siamese, Yellow Tiger, Leopard, Apricot, Brown Tiger, Brown Cloudy Leopard, Brown, White Tiger, White, Dilute White, White Siamese



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